Revised Chronology views of Mithrandir
This Blog is where I shall discus my views on Revised Chronology. Form my perspective as a Bible Believing Six-Day Young Earth Creationist. I agree with most of the Basic pillars Immanuel Velikovsky laid out in Ages in Caos. But disagree with many details.
Saturday, April 2, 2022
Merneptah as The Pharaoh who destroyed Gezer
Thursday, July 1, 2021
Dan West of Baalbek
So I'd commented on Velikovsky's Dan as Baalbek theory before. I no longer agree with that theory but have came up with one similar.
While Baalbek was a site with Temples going way back into the Bronze Age, the most impressive structures there now are Roman ones, chiefly The Temple to Jupiter built by Hadrian. It seems like originally the far more important cult center was to the West, in the eastern part of the Byblos District of Modern Lebanon.
A site in that region called Afqa/Afka/Apheca/Afeka is one of the sites proposed to be the Aphik/Aphek allotted to Asher in Joshua 19:30 and Judges 1:31. Marvin H. Pope of Yale University proposed that somewhere in this area was the ancient home of El referred to in the Ugarit texts. In Greek Mythology this same region is associated with the myth of Adonis/Adonais who's name comes from the Biblical Hebrew Adoni/Adonai which is not otherwise known to have been used by Canaanites who preferred Baal as their word for calling a god Lord. So I really do think this is evidence this cult was a Paganized worship of of the God of Abraham.
Both those references to Asher's Aphik mentioned a Rehob nearby. If this is the same Rehob that is identified with the "Entering in of Hamath" in Numbers 13:21 as well as the Bethrehob of Laish in Judges 18, then that is the city of Northern Dan. Judges 1:31 lists these cites as among those Asher didn't drive the Canaanites out of, so that's consistent with them still being Canaanite when Dan arrives later.
My current theory reads that verse as making them the northern most of those cities and Accho/Acco the Sothern Most. Accho is the city called Ptolemais in Greco-Roman times and thus in The New Testament, Acre by the Crusaders and is now known as Akka in modern Israel. It would be the only of the Judges 1:31 cities that is today in Israel rather then Lebanon. And Asher unlike the tribes in the surrounding verses didn't even make these Canaanite cities Tributaries, they remained fully independent.
So Rehob/Laish/Dan is probably Yanouh (the nearby temples at Qaalat Faqra and Yammoune are also interesting).
For Naphtali the main cities they didn't drive the Canaanites out of, but that they did make Tributaries, were Beth-Anath and Bethshemesh according to Judges 1:33. These Tributaries I think were still practicing their Native Baal Worship however. Two of the sites proposed for Beth-Anath are in South Eastern Lebanon close to the proper Naphtalite territory.
More then one city is called Beth-Shemesh in the Hebrew Bible since naturally there were many Houses of Sun Worship. The one west of Jerusalem was no longer in use by Hellenistic times. The Bethshemesh in the Land of Egypt mentioned in Jeremiah 43:13 we know was called Heliopolis by the Greeks. Baalbek was also called Heliopolis by the Greeks.
Baalbek and Afqa are close to being on the same Latitude, along with the port city of Byblos. In 1 Kings 5:18 what the KJV weirdly translated "Stonequarers" is actually Gibilites or people of Gebel/Byblos. Since a Maternal Danite was the architect of The Temple I consider this evidence Gebel was Dan's port city.
The Byblos District is among the regions of Lebanon where today the majority of the population is Maronite. I have a theory that the Maronites are the modern descendants of the Danites. They are significantly the Majority of Christians in Lebanon, and DNA studies have shown the Lebanese Christians to be among the groups even closer related to The Jews then the Arabs are. Since the people classified as Arabs includes the Ishmaelites, Keturites, Edomites and probably now also descendants of Moab and Ammon, that would have to make The Maronites fellow descendants of the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
The Adonis connection also means this region's version of Astarte might be the version who became Aphrodite after entering Greece through the Southern Peloponnese. The same region of Greece said to have been colonized by Danoi/Danaans.
Friday, December 25, 2020
The Three Kings skipped by Matthew
It is appropriate for this kind of Hebrew genealogy to skip generations, and Matthew outright admits he wants to make this three sets of 14 generations.
Timescale and comparison to Luke has me convinced Matthew is also skipping generations from the Captivity to Jesus. And I think even the Hebrew Bible genealogies skip some generations from Nasshon to Boaz.
All that said why leave these three of all of them out is something worth enquiring about.
The usual explanation for Matthew 1:8 skipping right from Joram to Uzziah is that the three kings skipped (Ahaziah, Joash and Amaziah) were “bad” kings. But they weren’t the worst kings, in fact Joash and Amaziah could be considered pretty okay. Manasseh was way worse but Chronicles records his repentance, however Amon and Ahaz were also worse than those three and have no repentance recorded. I’ve seen one suggestion that it has to do with them starting good but then “going bad” and not repenting, but that narrative describes Solomon more than anyone else, and can arguably apply to Uzziah and Josiah as well.
I’m intrigued by the fact that all three are consecutive, it’s like an entire era of the Davidic Monarchy’s history is being skipped.
What’s also interesting is that the two names flanking this skip are both names for which the Hebrew Bible has a degree of chaos concerning what their name even is. Uzziah is also called Azariah and Joram is also called Jehoram. And in each case at least one of those names is shared by other individuals who lived at the same time they did.
I’ve been considering the possibility that the post Pentateuch Historical books of the Hebrew Bible should perhaps not be considered as authoritative or infallible as those books much more directly quoted as Scripture by Jesus or other New Testament writers. They are not unambiguously quoted in the NT, New Testament references to the “Old Testament” are focused on the Law and the Prophets. When Paul talks about “rightly dividing the word of truth” and about testing all things, maybe it’s okay to subject the historical books to the same historical criticism other historical texts are given.
Immanuel Velikovsky in the first volume of Ages in Chaos in the section on the Amarna letters deals with what he perceives to be contradictions in the text by suggesting that Jehoram King of Israel didn’t exist. I however, even back when I wasn’t open to what I’m suggesting now figured a far more plausible theory would be to say it's the Jehoram of Judah who didn’t exist. That perhaps both Kings and Chronicles in their final forms are Judean histories seeking to erase that there was a time when Judah was conquered by the House of Omri.
That perhaps 2 Kings 8:16 was originally saying the fifth year of Jerhoram of Israel’s reign in Israel was when he became King of Judah. And 2 Kings 8:25 that in his twelfth year he made his son Ahaziah King of Judah similar to how the heir to the throne of England is the Prince of Wales. And Jehoram was perhaps married to his sister which was acceptable in some ancient Near Eastern pagan monarchies.
And so when Jehosheba and her husband the Priest Jehoiada conspire against Athaliah to put a kid on the Throne, it’s their kid not a Nephew. The Azariah who lived at the same time as King Uzziah was a “chief priest” in 2 Chronicles 14-20, a term that is distinct in Hebrew from “High Priest” but many treat it as the same.
Maybe Uzziah was the first patrilineal descendant of Jehoshaphat to sit on the Throne of David since Jehoshaphat was alive and that is what Matthew 1:8 is actually telling us?
Friday, August 2, 2019
I've discovered people arguing that the "Aryans" descended from Ham.
Sunday, May 19, 2019
Chariots had been used in Egypt as far back as the Old Kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariotry_in_ancient_Egypt
In ancient Egyptian society chariotry stood as an independent unit in the King’s military force. Chariots are thought to have been first used as a weapon in Egypt by the Hyksos[1] in the 16th century BC, though investigation of materials long held in the Tahrir Square Egyptian Museum has potentially revealed the presence of chariots as early as the Old Kingdom (c. 2686–2181 BC).[2] The Egyptians developed their own design of the chariot.
Much past discussion of when in Egyptian History certain Biblical events could have happened were based on the long held assumption that there were no Chariots in Egypt till the Hyksos period. But we now know otherwise. I wish I'd known about this sooner, being made in 2013 it predates my starting this Blog, I could have opened with it.
- Hyskos introduced chariots to ancient Egypt Archived 2010-06-29 at the Wayback Machine
- Nevine El-Aref, “Old Kingdom leather fragments reveal how ancient Egyptians built their chariots”, English Ahra, Monday 22 Apr 2013, http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/69897/Heritage/Ancient-Egypt/Old%20Kingdom-leather-fragments-reveal-how-ancient-E.aspx
I'm still reevaluating just how much of my past Revised Chronology speculations I still agree with. But for now this is an enlightening discovery either way.
Wednesday, December 5, 2018
What does Greek even mean?
In the KJV of the Hebrew Bible any time you see Greece or Greek or Grecia or Grecian it's a reference to Javan son of Japheth, his descendants and where they settled. Which scholars of the ancient Bronze/Iron Age and early classical antiquity know refereed to the Ionians and Ionia.
However in the New Testament those words are translations of references to the Hellenes. The Hellenes as an ethnic term didn't always include everyone we today mean by Greeks. However the word was also associated with anyone who could speak the Hellenic language and is thus used of Hellenized Jews like the Seven Deacons in Acts 6.
The Ionians were Hellenes, but only one of a number of Hellenic tribes. And of the mythical founder figures of the original four Hellenic tribes, Ion's parentage is questionable, which may be a mythical memory that the Ionians were not Hellenes originally but became absorbed into them. And the same may be true later on of the tribes said to descend from Hellen's sisters' sons.
The ancient root of the words Greek and Greece is one of those nephews of Hellen, Greacus, but the Hellenes typically said to come from him were mainly those of Southern Italy and Sicily, Magna Graecia. The Latins called all Hellenes Greeks after them and thus via the Vulgate that's why there are so many Greeks in our English Bibles.
Ionia was a part of Asia Minor/Turkey, south of Mysia and west of Phrygia, it included the cities of Miletus, Ephesus and Smyrna, and Islands like Samos. The Ionians also colonized more Aegean islands and eventually came to the actual mainland of modern Greece and by the early Classical period a significant portion of the population of Athens/Attica were Ionians, maybe even the majority. But the Athenians of legends set in the Heroic Age were not likely to have been Ionians.
Athens becoming the cultural capital of Greece during the Classical Period is the main basis for treating Ionian and Hellen as synonyms, but on purely genealogical grounds it doesn't work so well. Alexander The Great can be called of Javan based on his culture, being educated by Aristotle made him in many ways more Athenian then Macedonian in his way of thinking. But also Daniel 8:21 arguably describes Alexander as a King of Javan in a way that doesn't' necessarily make him Javanite himself. Daniel 11 doesn't directly link Alexander to Javan at all but mentions Javan as where the Persian Wars started, the first conflict of which is known as the Ionian Revolt.
Now I do believe that the Grandsons of Noah had more children then just the ones named, the sons named are founders of offshoot nations. Therefore I do think Ionian strictly speaking doesn't include the nations of Javan's four sons. So does that justify expanding Javan's descendants to include all Hellens? Well that's complicated, there is plenty of reason to think all their original locations were also either in modern Turkey or on islands not far from Turkish coast-lands.
Kittim is well known to refer to Cyprus, Kition, but perhaps not even all of it as Kition was one of ten ancient kingdoms of Cyprus. Attempts to expand it to being synonymous with "Greece" start with desiring to see Isaiah 23 as about Alexander's siege of Tyre. But Kittim is not actually identified as Tyre's enemy here but a place Tyrians would try to flee to, which can potentially apply equally to both Alexander's siege and Nebuchadnezzar's. Daniel 11:30 is used to try and make Kittim into Rome because in the traditional view this is where Rome starts becoming a thorn in the side of Antiochus Epiphanes, but that encounter between Antiochus and Rome happened on Cyprus. In my alternative view that this is about the reign of Ptolemy IV this may have to do with how Cyprus was under Ptolemaic control. There was even a brief dynastic connection.
Elishah is the big factor in trying to make all Hellenes into Javanites, sometimes by arguing the name Hellen itself comes from Elishah which is pretty tortured, as well as Elysium and the Elysian fields which were underworld locations, and Josephus said the Eleans (people of Elis) came from Elishah. However the Elishah of Javan is probably the Alashiya, another kingdom of ancient Cyprus, perhaps specifically the sites of Kalavasos and Alassa. Elishah and Kittim are both mentioned together with Mizraim in Ezekiel 27:7-8, at the time Ezekiel was writing Egypt was also colonizing Cyprus, or in one theory I've considered had been exiled there.
The Dodanim is most likely supposed to be read Rodanim which I explained the textual reasons for on my Sola Scirptura blog. It most likely refers to Rhodes, an island north-east of Crete and closer to Turkey then it is to Crete, south of Ionia. KJV onlyists however will cling to Dodanim irrationally, which makes Dodona an attractive identification. Dodona was an Oracle in Epirus even more ancient then Delphi, and also a city in Thessaly. Aristotle said Dodona was the original homeland of the Hellenes, but history wasn't his area of expertise. Attempts to say they were actually the Dardanians are also made, but there is no textual support for a d-r reading.
Tarshish is who's identification is the most mysterious. I do not think possibly misunderstood Chronicles verses are good justification for placing Tarshish in the east rather then west. Regions of ancient Spain like Tartessos I think were first settled by Phut, there has long been speculation that the Basques are related to the Berbers. And if I were to theorize a Biblical origin for the name Tartessos itself, Tirzah is closer then Tarshish since there are reasons that letter for Z sometimes become a T.
I no longer support fanciful theories about Tarshish being Briton or India or Japan. However of mainstream theories Tarsus is the most probable.
Tarshish is another example of my maybe coming to support a theory of Velikovsky I originally didn't think I would, which is making them the Minoans/Crete or more specifically Knossos.
https://www.varchive.org/nldag/tarshish.htm
However it could also simply be the Tarsus of Cilicia which was already known by that name in Assyrian Inscriptions.
In Greek Mythology a people called the Telchines were the earliest inhabitants of Rhodes, and also lived on Cyprus and Crete. So this term could be a name given to the offshoots of Javan. And that makes them Pre-Hellenic not Hellens.
The Pre-Hellenic people of Greece were often called Pelasgians as a whole, yet Pelasgians are sometimes implied to be one specific group. Some theories about the etymology of Pelasgian imply there wasn't originally an S before the G, which makes a connection to Peleg possible.
I also believe two Canaanite tribes were among the Pre-Helelnic Greeks. The Arkite tribe were the Arcadians and the Sinite tribe the Sintians.
Thrace I think was the ancient nation of Tiras, but I think Thracians also traveled north and contributed to Scandinavia.
Where do I think the Hellens came from Biblically? Well I think they may have been Israelites who lost their identity. Partly from north western coastal tribes of the Northern Kingdom becoming sea traders and thus mingling with the Phoenicians as well as Ionians in cities like Miletus. And partly from what Joel 3 says about children of Judah and Jerusalem being sold as slaves to Javanites by Tyre and Philista. Which could include the wives and children of Jehoram of Judah some of whom were taken by the Philistines.
On my comparative mythology blog I shall in the future discus evidence for that from Greek mythology. But one particular factor there, since the Joel verse gives good reason to see Benjamites as included, is that the Tarsus of Cilicia could come from the Tarshish of the Tribe of Benjamin in 1 Chronicles 7:10. Paul was born in Tarsus of Cilicia and is well known to have been a Benjamite.
But for now I want to remind those trying to argue Paul only brought The Gospel to the "Lost Tribes" that specifically Ionian places are important in Acts. Ephesus and Miletus in Ionia (likewise Ephesus and Smyrna in Revelation), Athens, Cyrpus, Rhodes and Crete were all visited by Paul. And then of course Paul's hometown may itself be Tarshish.
Friday, September 7, 2018
The Richat Structure as Atlantis theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoM4BmoDQM
He believes a number of fringe things I don't support, like when he talks about Baalbek in other videos.
[[That video now has a follow up https://youtu.be/lyV8TUlV3Ds.]]
Here is a playlist of the full documentary on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzaG2Oyvx5GAFhqrPSo5CyrmBNL3Z1E3
It brings up the debunked Dogon/Sirius mystery stuff, but other then that seems like solid research.
Now I was aware of Atlantis possibly being in North-West Africa long before I heard of the Richat Structure. So these advocates of the theory would benefit by mentioning how broadly Atlantis in this region theories were proposed before the Richat Structure was even discovered in 1965.
Like the theories of French geographer E. F. Berlioux first published in 1874, and expanded in 1883 in L'Atlas primitif et l'Atlantis, of the Saharian Sea, which located Atlantis in the Hoggar mountains of the Saharan Atlas. A different part of North-West Africa, but still in the ballpark broadly.
That theory was among the influences on French novelist Pierre Benoit (1886-1962) when he wrote his novel L'Atlantide, first published in France in February 1919. It was adapted to film multiple times before 1965, and influenced other fiction including some Italian Sword and Sandal films, the character of Queen Antinea was an important influence on the modern Femme Fatale archetype.
http://www.coolfrenchcomics.com/atlantide.htm
These two different theories could be compatible, the Hoggar Mountains could have been home to one of the Colonies of Atlantis.
Herodotus refereed to Atlantians in North-West Africa in Book IV of his Histories, sections 184-185. Diodorus Sicilus Library of History Book III Chapters 52-57&60-61 talks about people of North-West Africa (Libya to the Ancient Greeks was all of Saharan Africa west of Egypt and Cyrene, not just modern Libya) including people called Atlantians and the Libyan Amazons (and also claims the Gorgons were actually a Human Matriarchal Tribe of the region rather then Snake monsters). The curious thing about Diodorus account though is it's the Amazons rather then Atlantians who's history resembles Plato's Atlantis. Their capital city is on an island in a Marsh, they build a vast empire through conquest including making a connection with Aegytpos, but are stopped by Greeks, sometime after which their homeland is said to be submerged. His account does equate ancient Atlantian Kings with the Titans and Olympian deities however.
The question for me as a Biblical Literalist is, how do we fit this into a Biblical View of history?
First, if Atlantis (or whatever it was originally called) was a Post-Flood Civilization, they were probably among the descendants of Phut who is traditionally associated with North-West Africa. I believe Ezekiel 38 uses Phut as an idiom of the Far West, not unlike Greek Mythology associating Mount Atlas with the Far West.
But the idea that the Sinking of Atlantis is another memory of Noah's Flood should also be considered.
I've already explained why I think it's futile to assume the Euphrates of Genesis 2 must be where the Post-Flood Euphrates is. That was in the context of arguing for Eden being Aden in Yemen, a theory I still lean towards, but in my search for truth I consider many theories.
The Garden of the Hesperides in Greek Mythology are often thought to be a corrupted Greek memory of the Garden of Eden, and it is traditionally placed near Mount Atlas as the Titan Atlas was sometimes the father of the Hesperides. In Plato's account of Atlantis the innermost island included a Sacred Garden of Poseidon. So could Atlantis also be a corrupt memory of Eden?
Maybe when Cain was exiled from Eden he was exiled from the Richat. Or maybe only from the inner most Island and it was the city he or his son founded that became this great imperial capital.
I've also Biblically argued for The Flood being proceeded by a major war.
And maybe in light of some speculation on my Comparative Mythology Blog the Gorgons could be an all female tribe descended from Lilith.
What I've said above can apply to a Global Flood model, which remains over all my view of The Flood.
However I said when addressing the Racist associations of Old Earth Creationism that I could be open to a local flood interpretation of Genesis, it's an Old Earth model I'm completely against (though I am intrigued by Peter Hiett's The History of Time and the Genesis of you theory which is the only such compromise that doesn't separate the Genesis 1 and 2 Adams or in some way claim not all Human descend from Adam and Eve).
I've looked at some of Michael Heiser's material on the subject. But here is the thing, if the purpose of a Local Flood model is to make The Bible fit more with what mainstream science assumes. Then Adam and Eve have to be placed in Africa not the Near East.
I have also found some sites arguing that via correcting possible translation ambiguities Genesis 7 could have been describing a Tsunami, which fits with what is proposed to have happened to Atlantis in the Richat Structure theory. So maybe it's possible Noah's Ark was built inside or near the Richat Structure, then a tidal wave took it out to the Ocean and it somehow wound up landing somewhere in the Near East.
What's important is all Homo-Sapiens descend from both Adam and Eve. If there are some who don't descend from Noah, the mainstream interpretation of the Genetic evidence implies they would have been in Africa. Now Racists could attempt to twist that kind of view to their means too, saying non Noahites are not as Chosen as the rest of us. But Romans 5 and 1st Corinthians 15 promise Salvation to all descendants of Adam, and Romans 11 that all Ethnicities will be grafted into Israel.
I've talked about Y-Chromosomal Haplogroups on this Blog before. Not all my conclusions there necessarily need to be abandoned under this hypothesis. Here is a Tree of how mainstream scientists view the descent of Y-Chromosomal Haplogroups.
People who descend from A or B but not the rest are all indigenous to Africa.
The most attractive way to interpret that in this proposed Local Flood model would be BR is descent from Seth or Enos and CR is descent from Noah. I would then guess that C is Japheth (Enlarge is a mis-translation in Genesis 9, something I intend to talk about elsewhere, C is attested among Greeks and Cypriots). DE is Ham as Haplogroup E dominates much of Africa including Egypt including some ancient Mummies), Sudan, Ethiopia and North-West Africa, and has presence in the Middle East and even the Far East. And lastly F is Shem from whom comes Abraham who's descendants were destined to be the most numerous. People of Hamite Pater-lineal ancestry did get incorporated into Israel via the Mixed Multitude and The Torah specifically saying to welcome Mizraimites, so that's why there are both Ashkenazim, Shaphardi and other Jews who are in Y-Haplogroup E. (Though I've also been considering a model that would switch Ham and Shem.)
In-spite of all that speculation, I still lean towards a Global Flood. It's simply that if you want to convince me of a Local Flood model, this is the only viable one.