In Hebrew, the name Seir (strong number 8165) also means hairy. Seir was the name of a mountain range in Edom, the land of the Edomites, and of a Horite who's descendants intermarried with the Edomites. Esau, the progenitor of the Edomites was also known for being Hairy.
Caesar could conceivably derive from Seir in some way, making this name further evidence for Edom becoming Rome.
Update: Britam responded to this theory
http://hebrewnations.com/articles/bible/caesar.html
Perhaps Caesar comes from Kaus and Seir being merged together.The Name of Julius Caesar in Etymology
Contents:
1. Introduction: Edomites, Seir, and being "Hairy"
2. JaredThaJa: The Name Caesar is derived from a word meaning "hairy"!
3. Reply by Yair Davidiy: Different Explanations Given by Wikipedia
4. The name "Caesar" derives from Esau!
5. The Blessing to Esau
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1. Introduction
We identify the Edomites descendants of Esau, twin-brother of Jacob, as the ancestors of important element amongst the Ancient Romans, Germans, Russians and other peoples. We also find them amongst the Lost Ten tribes. They assisted the Assyrians (see Amos ch.1) in transporting and exiling the Israelites.
We have two books on the subject on the verge of publication and distribution.
The Edomites had conquered the Land of Seir and intermixed with its inhabitants. The term Seir is used in the Bible as synonymous with Edom. One of the meanings of "Seir" is hairy which shows the significance of names in understanding the bible since Esau was born as "red, all over like a hairy garment" i.e."red and hairy" (Genesis 25:25).
Ancient Rome played an important in early European history. It still does. The Ruling Classes of Europe were raised until recently reading Latin Literature.
The early Republic of Rome was replaced by the Roman Empire. The first Emperor was Julius Caesar. In his honor all future emperors were also known as Caesar.
The terms "Kaiser" (i.e. in Germany) and Czar (in Russia) also derive from the name "Caesar".
They saw themselves as continuations of the Roman Empire.
We received a message (shown below) suggesting that the very name "Caesar" originally meant "hairy".
This is interesting.
In Etymology a word may have a certain origin yet have been modified by the meaning of another word similar in sound to it.
In other words different explanations for the meaning and origin of a word may exist without necessarily contradicting each other.
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2. JaredThaJa: The Name Caesar is derived from a word meaning "hairy"!
Subject: Caesar and Seir
From: "JaredThaJa ." <jaredthaja@gmail.com>
I've posted on my blog further evidence for connecting Edom and Rome.
http://mithrandironchronology.blogspot.com/2015/09/is-there-connection-between-caesar-and.htmlIs there a connection between Caesar and Seir?
http://mithrandironchronology.blogspot.co.il/2015/09/is-there-connection-between-caesar-and.htmlThere are a lot of theory about the etymology of the name Caesar. But the most mainstream widely accepted one is that is came from caesar, a Latin word meaning "hairy". The first recorded example of a Roman with the name was Sextus Julius Caesar Consul in 208 BC, who might been know for being hairy.
In Hebrew, the name Seir (strong number 8165) also means hairy. Seir was the name of a mountain range in Edom, the land of the Edomites, and of a Horite who's descendants intermarried with the Edomites. Esau, the progenitor of the Edomites was also known for being Hairy.
Caesar could conceivable derive from Seir in some way, making this name further evidence for Edom becoming Rome.
Posted by JaredMithrandir at 7:31 PM
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3. Reply by Yair Davidiy: Different Explanations Given by Wikipedia
Caesar as a term for Emperor is presumed to be derived from the family name of Julius Caesar (100 BCE -44 BCE) the first Roman Emperor.
I just came across an article about the renewed popularity of Julius:
'Et tu, Brute?' Why Julius Caesar is wildly popular 2,059 years after his assassination
https://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/et-tu-brute-why-julius-caesar-is-wildly-popular-2059-years-after-his-assassination/It is interesting to note that in the time of Julius Caesar there was a small Jewish community in Rome. Caesar befriended them and is on record as threatening to execute anyone spreading calumnies about them.
A Wikipedia articles discusses possible origins of the name "Caesar":Gaius Iulius Caesar (name)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Iulius_Caesar_(name)
In earlier times Caesar could originally have been a praenomen.[24] The suffix -ar was highly unusual for the Latin language, which might imply a non-Latin origin of the name. The etymology of the name Caesar is still unknown and was subject to many interpretations even in antiquity. Julius Caesar himself propagated the derivation from the elephant, an animal that was said to have been called caesai in the "Moorish", i.e. probably Punic language,[25]thereby following the claims of his family that they inherited the cognomen from an ancestor, who had received the name after killing an elephant, possibly during the first Punic War. Since the Gauls came to know the elephant through the Punic commander Hannibal, it is possible that the animal was also known under the name caesar or caesai in Gaul. Caesar used the animal during his conquest of Gaul and probably of Britain,[26] which is further supported by the inclusion of forty elephants on the first day of Caesar's Gallic triumph in Rome.[27] Caesar displayed an elephant above the name CAESAR on his first denarius, which he probably had minted while still in Gallia Cisalpina. Apart from using the elephant as a claim for extraordinary political power in Rome,[28] the coin is an unmasked allusion to this etymology of the name and directly identifies Caesar with the elephant, because the animal treads a Gallic serpent-horn, the carnyx, as a symbolic depiction of Caesar's own victory.[29]
Several other interpretations were propagated in antiquity, all of which remain highly doubtful:
a caesiis oculis[30] ("because of the blue eyes"): Caesar's eyes were black,[31] but since the despotic dictator Sulla had had blue eyes, this interpretation might have been created as part of the anti-Caesarian propaganda in order to present Caesar as a tyrant.[32]
a caesaries[33] ("because of the hair"): Since Caesar was balding, this interpretation might have been part of the anti-Caesarian mockery.
a caeso matris utero[34] ("born by Caesarean section"): In theory this might go back to an unknown Julian ancestor who was born in this way. On the other hand it could also have been part of the anti-Caesarian propaganda, because in the eyes of the Republicans Caesar had defiled the Roman "motherland", which was also reported for one of Caesar's dreams, in which he committed incest with his mother, i.e. the earth.[35]
Another interpretation of Caesar deriving from the verb caedere ("to cut") could theoretically have originated in the argument of the Julians for receiving a sodality of the Lupercalia, the luperci Iulii (or Iuliani). Since the praenomen Kaeso (or Caeso) was at first a proprietary name of the Quinctii and the Fabii, possibly derived from their ritual duty of striking with the goat-skin (februis caedere) at the luperci Quinctiales and the luperci Fabianirespectively, the Julians would then have argued that the name Caesar was identical to the Quinctian and Fabian Kaeso.[36] The identification of the cognomina Kaeso and Caesar was indeed supposed by Pliny, but is, according to Alfoldi (1975), unwarranted.[37]===============================
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4. The name "Caesar" derives from Esau!
Going from memory, de Gobineau in his French-language history of the Ancient Persians traces the name to a root "Kais" or "Kas" or something similar.
He shows how this root name was associated with rulership and monarchs throughout the Indo-European world.
The Idumeans of Edom worshipped an ancestral god named Kos.
This is actually an alternative pronounciation of the name Esau, ancestor of Edom.
The Edomites were destined to provide the ruling classes of numerous peoples. They managed to maintain their homogeneity for centuries by strictly forbidding intermarriage with their subjects.
Esau in Hebrew begins with the letter "Ayin" which could take a guttural sound thus "Aza" becomes "Gaza" and "Omri" was pronounced as "Kumri".
Esau therefore gave his name to rulership.
We saw from Wikipedia above how the "-ar" suffix in Caesar probably shows the non-Latin origin of the name and little more than that.
Caesar is therefore the same "Caes" or "Kais".
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5. The Blessing to Esau
From Caesar we obtain the terms "Kaiser" and "Czar".
This is fitting for a military race of he-men hunters destined to be blessed with material prosperity and live by their sword.Genesis 27:
39 Then Isaac his father answered and said to him,
Behold, OF the fatness of the earth shall be your dwelling,
And of the dew of heaven from above.
40 "By your sword you shall live, And your brother you shall serve;
But it shall come about when you go down [from the land, OR "when the time comes for you to rule"], That you will break his yoke from your neck."Esau.
Edomites Today
http://hebrewnations.com/publications/books/esaubook.html
EDOM.
Germany & Israel
http://hebrewnations.com/publications/books/edomgermany.htmlSee Also EsauContinued from:
Disclaimer, I of course do not always agree with the views of Britam.
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